Posts by joey jojo

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A Brother refusing to pray?

by HereIgo in

i remember there was a brother in my congregation while i was in who would comment at all meetings but if asked to pray at a meeting or meeting for service he would always politely refuse.

i always found it odd, i assumed as a young bro, that a bro was kind of obligated to pray if asked.

knowing what i know now, it could have been a guilty conscience or maybe he just wanted to be lowkey.

joey jojo

The guy was probably privately reproved and on restrictions.

I had first hand experience in my younger days :). Such fond memories growing up in ' the truth '. A teenager facing 3 elders spending a solid 20 mins humiliating me in front of my family in order to reprove me.

Being privately reproved usually means you were a whisker away from being disfellowshipped and as such, you would lose any privileges you had as a baptised brother, including giving prayers.

When I asked what to say if someone should inadvertantly ask me to pray, the answer was I was required to politely decline.

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If this system goes on.

by karter in

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i heard my hard out jw sister say that for the 1st time in many years and i'm hearing more and more jw's saying that.

years ago when i was in they talked about the new system coming any minute..

joey jojo

The one thing that most religions have in common is that they offer their members an opportunity to cheat death.

Achieving immortality is the oldest theme of organised religion.

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Australian Jehovah's Witnesses are ignorant of the Australian Royal Commission

by stuckinarut2 in

many here have asked how the average witness in australia is taking the news of the arc findings and conclusions.. is it affecting them?.

sorry to say, hardly any are even aware of the facts.

those that are, have been convinced that all the publicity is "apostate lies and satanic propaganda".

joey jojo

The ones I have spoken to have put a positive spin on the findings in the sense that it has and will adjust procedures going forward.

They see these changes as beneficial for victims and the org.

My reply to them was that I was puzzled that it took a worldly commission to invoke 'adjustments' within gods spirit directed organisation.

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Jehovah God is Real

by TakeOffTheCrown in

there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.

but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.

yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..

joey jojo

Take off the crown.

Perhaps you are here because at the edges of your mind you have questions that need answers. Questions that are not yet formed and yet, are gnawing at your sub- conscious mind.

You may be looking for confirmation of an answer you don't quite know the question for.

Perhaps you are trying to open your soul and allow a seed to be planted.

A seed of doubt?

A seed of truth?

Although you are still under the spell, on a higher level, at least you are aware of it.

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AUSTRALIAN ROYAL COMMISSION OF INQUIRY: MAIN CONCLUSIONS ON JW ORGANIZATION

by steve2 in

10 response of the jehovah’s witness organisation to the sexual abuse of children.

having regard to the various matters we have discussed in this report, we have reached a number of general conclusions on the jehovah’s witness organisation’s response to the sexual abuse of children.

we do not consider the jehovah’s witness organisation to be an organisation which responds adequately to child sexual abuse.

joey jojo

It is making the news already..

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-demonstrated-a-serious-failure-to-protect-children-royal-commission-20161128-gsyxcp.html

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Depression, Anger and Anxiety

by Sorry in

for the last few months, i feel like i've been going through the 5 stages of grief.

lately, it's been happening simultaneously.

in my other posts, i've expressed anger at my family and congregation for their thoughtless ways.

joey jojo

Read a good quote today,

If you are depressed, you are living in the past.

If you are anxious, you are living in the future.

If you are at peace, you are the living in the present.

This probably doesn't help at all but its something to think about :p.

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Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?

by NikL in

in the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.

as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.

does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?

joey jojo

Phizzy 8 hours ago

This "study"commences with a fallacy/lie: " Just as Jehovah progressively revealed truths about the Kingdom in the period leading up to 1914,"

How much of what the WT taught leading up to 1914 is accepted today ? and how much was truth ?

Once the Audience swallows that first bit of mind control, never having thought about the two questions above, they are ripe for being led by the nose straight to the Contribution box.

Poor, unthinking/ non-thinking saps.

Nailed it :)

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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy in

that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

joey jojo

If I was a gambler, my money would be on this article pertaining to child abuse or further tweaking of the generation nonsense.

Is it a coincidence that this article will be studied at the same time the Australian Royal Commission into child abuse hands down its findings?

The article certainly reads like its preparing us to overlook the GB's behaviour for something.

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Selloff Hinted At Assembly

by thedepressedsoul in

the last talk at the assembly made an interesting statement, "we can show faith by following direction if we're asked to move to another kingdom hall for better use of dedicated christian funds".

this statement has everyone talking.

i spoke to multiple individuals and they heard the same thing at different assembly's.. i know they have been "evaluating" all kingdom halls the last year or two.

joey jojo

Darkspilver,

I think you nailed the psychological aspect of local contributions.

I have posted the story on here before about my grandmother who donated a very large chunk of her retirement funds to help with renovations on the local congregation. In her mind she was helping the local brothers and by extension, the local community would benefit.

The hall was sold only a few years later and the congregation dissolved.

When she raised the issue with the c.o., he became irritated with her and told her not to worry because her contribution was going to help ' the worldwide brotherhood'.

I wish I could go back in time and rescue some of my inheritance :).

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CLAM Video: Aug 8-14 2016 – “Older Ones - You Have an Important Role”

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

this video portrayed an elderly widowed sister who was a former pioneer and now reduced to submitting field service reports of 15 minute increments.

she was also portrayed as quite frail in that she ambulates with the use of a quad rollator frame.

she was very neatly attired and groomed and what the video showed of her apartment conveyed everything perfectly tidy to a level which would have relaxed an ocd sufferer.

joey jojo

Nice observations.

In a similar vein, elders that became financially secure because of education they had prior to joining the organisation giving public talks about the dangers of education for young jw's. These elders, while happy to preach a life of poverty and struggle for impressionable kids have no intention of quitting their own lifestyle and becoming window cleaners.